ON THE KINSALE ELECTION PETITION.
161 4944.
By the Committee] Do I understand you, that your impression is, that Dr.
Edward Jago.
the man who came to you was Mahony or Howse; who came to you for Mahony ?
—It appears to me, a man of the name of Howse came to me for a small sum 23 February 1848, of money, and I gave it him.
4945-M you say just now, your impression was, the man who came to you was Mahony ?—No,
Howse.
4946.
By Mr.
Manisty] Did you give any assistance to John Farley?—Yes,
I have.
4947.
Was that before the election ?—I
have very often given a shilling to him; he is a pauper; he is as great an object of charity as there is in the world.
4948.
Recollect, did you assist him before the election ?—I
may have assisted him before; I have often assisted him for the last five years, both before and since.
4949.
Where does he live, at Scilly?—Yes.
4950.
Do you know Mr.
Guinness' hand-writing ?—I
do.
4951.
Look at that ?—That
is his writing.
4952.
The signature and all?—Yes,
I know the writing.
Mr.
Mereioether objected to the document being put into the Witness' hands without being put in evidence.
Mr.
Manisty was heard in answer to the objection.
Mr.
Merewether was heard in reply.
Mr.
Manisty then withdrew7 the letter.
4Q.53.
By Mr.
Ma7iisty] Did you commence the canvass with Mr.
Guinness, and did you continue the canvass all the time ?—All
through.
4954.
Four clays ?—About
four days.
4955.
Do you recollect those four days, which they were ?—I
think they were the 20th, the 22d, the 23d and 24th of July.
4956.
When did you receive that 700 /.,
which you.
stated you received in two sums ?—I
think about the 9th or 10th of August, 4957.
Where were you when you received that money?—I
was in the hotel.
4958.
Where, at Kinsale?—Yes,
at Kinsale; I think so; yes, it wras at Kin¬ sale, certainly.
4959.
Was Mr.
Guinness there ?—Lie
was there; he handed it to me; I will tell you exactly all that occurred.
4960.
Was Mr.
Guinness with you when you received that money ?—He
was ; I recollect it perfectly now; there had been five or six gentlemen waiting to see him off in the morning, in the parlour of the hotel; he went out; he called me out after him; he said, " We must settle with Mr.
Fitzsimons ; here are 500 /.
to pay the expenses, the legal expenses of the election ;" he then paused and turned round, and he handed me 200 /.
more; he said, " You may wrant to give something to the charities."
4961.
I ask you again, was that on the 10th or 11th of August?—I
cannot possibly tell you to a day; I said, I think, on or about that time ; it was three or four days after the election; I cannot tell exactly.
4962.
Did I understand you to say, Mr.
Guinness left Kinsale immediately after the election ?—He
left it four or five days after; the election closed on the 6th of August, and he left on the Monday or Tuesday following.
4963.
After the election was over did you come to London?—I
did ; I came to London ; on the 27th of September I left Kinsale.
4964.
Did 37ou see Mr.
Guinness in London ?—I
did.
4965.
Where did you meet him ?—I
met him at his house, No.
4, Park-place.
4966.
Did you meet him at Mr.
Attwood's ?—I
did.
4967.
Was Black there ?—Not
in my presence, nor at any time I was there ; I never saw Black there.
4968.
Mr.
Guinness, I presume, was a stranger to you before he came to Kinsale ?—A
perfect stranger to me.
4969.
Was Mr.
Attwood a stranger to you ?—Before
he came to Kinsale ?
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