14 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE BEFORE SELECT COMMITTEE Captain <?.
«9ip/M.
Captain George G^»ps, again called in ; and Examined.
~~TT 77 147.
DO you wish to give any explanation with regard to any communica-19 Juy 1 32-
^ which led you to believe that there was a distinction made with legard to the rudit of voting of the 5/.
householders of the town and of the manor?—
I wish to state that I have written to my co-commissioner, Mr.
Duffey, who is at present in Ireland, at Kilkenny, to know if he could explain how the mis-take arose; in answer to which I have received from him this day a letter, which I hold in my hand, in which he says, " I am quite certain (mentioning the authorities of Dungarvan,) 1 am quite certain they told us it was confined to the town."
I have nothing further to say.
Mr.
Jo/m iTwakow, recalled ; and Examined.
Mr.
</oA>i j7«/,soH.
148.
IT has been stated by one of the Commissioners who was sent to in-
quire into the boundaries of the town of Dungarvan, that from the information he there received he was led to believe that the right of voting of the 5 /.
householders was confined to those who were within the limits of the town; can you explain how that misrepresentation could have arisen ?—When
Mr.
Duffey and his co-commissioner came to Dungarvan, I believe he handed to me an official letter from Mr.
Stanley, requiring me to give him every informa-tion in my power, as the seneschal of Dungarvan ; I did so; and in the course of my conversation with Captain Gipps, it is not impossible that I might have said, I do not say I did so, but it is not impossible but I might have said to Captain Gipps generally, that the 5 /.
householders were confined to the town, never for a moment intending to convey, nor do I suppose I could have con-veyed the idea, by saying that they were confined to the town, that they were precluded from the other parts of the manor.
149.
Your meaning then in giving that information would be, that particu-larly no persons voted as 5 /.
householders, except those that resided within the town ?—Generally.
150.
By the others chiefly voting as 40 5.
freeholders, you do not mean to convey the impression of allowing the freeholders, and excepting the 5/.
house--~--lioldoriB from ooming im fiuiu uu_y pai l-^-4k<uiiuuiaiL2^~Cei:rjLiblyLrJoi-; the reason
I said the qualification of a householder is that he resides in a house of the yearly value of 5/.,
and in general the occupiers of such houses are confined to the town.
Persons residing in remote parts of the manor in general do not occupy houses of the yearly value of 5/,, and even although they may, it would be their interest to come in as freeholders had they a freehold interest, by which means they should have a double vote.
Mr.
T//o?h«5
Jb/m, called in ; and Examined.
Mr.
7'/hwkm Jo/m.
151.
ARE you acquainted with the town of Youghall ?—I
am.
152.
Have you the plan as drawn by the Commissioners?'—I
have.
153.
Will you look at it near where the red line is drawn, and tell me whether that comprehends the whole of the present town ?—It
does.
154.
Are there any local Acts which make any distinction between the town of Youghall and the surrounding country ?—There
is an Act of Parliament for lighting and cleansing the town, adopted within the town, to which the country do not contribute anything towards the expense of, and it costs 600 /.
a year for lighting and cleansing the town.
155.
Are you certain that the Lighting Act is a local Act, or that the town of Youghall has brought into operation the general Lighting Act ?
-The general Lighting Act is adopted within the town.
156.
The general Lighting Act docs not describe any defined limits within which it is intended to apply ?—No,
that is by the vote of the inhabitants.
157.
What persons have a right to vote on that subject ?—Occupiers
of houses of the value of 5 /.
a year.
158.
Within what limits ?—Within
the proposed boundaries ; if you were to light other persons, they would be assessed.
159.
If you wished to extend the operation of the Lighting Act either north or south, beyond the existing town, you would only have to take the votes of those' persons who are to be subjected to it ?—You
must by public advertise-
