Minutes of evidence and appendices; with indexes (volume II, part II), Ireland

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ROYAL COMMISSION ON CANALS AND WATERWAYS. 
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21754. 
What do they do AAith the gas ?—They 
use it for power purposes in other places, and I believe they are to do it here ; they intend to cut the turf and to get all the power they will use on the place for nothing. 
The coke is valued at £3 a ton at Sheffield for metallurgical purposes ; that is a very valuable bye-product, in fact the bye-pro¬ ducts are a great deal more valuable than the peat. 
I understand 100 tons of peat produce about 5 tons of ammonia worth about £60. 
21755. 
Do you say that your industries are being killed for want of cheaper transit ?—Decidedly. 
21756. 
Do you look to canals to get you these cheaper rates ?—I 
am afraid I cannot look to the canals in their present condition. 
With the present canal companies their shareholders are their first interest; they are fairly reasonable in treating private traffic but if it costs them a penny they will not do it. 

21757. 
(Mr. 
Killick.) 
I do not quite understand; you do not run any boats of your OAvn on the Grand Canal ?— 
Yes, I have tried experiments of every kind on the canal. 
21758. 
You gave rather a good account of the Grand Canal Company at the end of your evidence. 
Have you made any complaint to them ?—Personally 
I do not make any complaints ; I suffer but I do not make complaints at all. 
I have asked them to do two or three things, and when they do not do them I leave it. 

21759. 
When you have asked them to do things and brought grievances to their notice they have generally-complied with your wishes ?—I 
have asked them to dredge my place for six years and they have not done it. 
I have t, put on a dredger myself. 

21760. 
Is that the first time they have not complied Mr. 
Dccid with your wishes ?—They 
have never complied with my Sherlock, wishes. 

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Tttlkunot^ 21761. 
You do not complain of the Grand Canal 

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Nov~l^()C Company Avith regard to the bridges ?—No, 
I think they 

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could be easily remedied. 
21762. 
I do not understand y7ou wish to make any complaint against the Grand Canal Company about the bridges ?—That 
is so ; they were there, and they will not change them. 
21763. 
Did I understand you to say that some railway had charged you a shilling a ton a mile ?—Yes. 
21764. 
For what ?—I 
sent peat moss to the Royal Dublin Society's Show,which is six miles outside of Dublin. 
The rate to Dublin was 5s. 
because the Canal Company goes to the city of Dublin, but this place I am talking about now is six miles outside the city and I had to pay Is. 
a ton for the last six miles ; whereas the sixty miles to Dublin only cost 5s. 
21765. 
Six shillings for the last six miles, and 5s. 
for the remaining distance ?—It 
was 5s. 
a ton to Dublin, that i« at the rate of Id. 
a mile for sixty miles. 
There are six miles outside Dublin and that was at the rate of Is. 
a mile. 
21766. 
That is to say 6s. 
per ton ?—Yes, 
I beg your pardon, lis. 
altogether. 
I am bound to say I did complain about that; I kicked up a row about it, and they said that in future they would give me a modified charge. 
21767. 
Did that include delivery or any other service besides carriage ?—No. 

The Witness withdrew. 
The Commission adfourned. 

FORTY-NINTH DAY. 

Tuesday, 2Zrd April, 1907. 

London. 

PEESENT. 
The Right Hon. 
Lord Shuttleworth (in the Chair). 
The Right Hon. 
Lord Brassey, G.C.B. 
The Right Hon. 
Lord Kenyon. 
The Right Hon. 
Lord Earrer. 
The Right Hon. 
Sir John Dorington, Bart. 
The Right Hon. 
Sir John Betjnner, Bart., 
M.P. 
Sir John Wilson, Bart. 
William J. 
Crosslby, Esq., 
M.P. 

Philip Snowden, Esq., 
M.P. 
Heney Vivian, Esq., 
M.P. 
L. 
A. 
Waldson, Esq., 
M.P. 
R. 
C. 
H. 
Davison, Esq. 
J. 
P. 
Griffith, Esq. 
H E. 
Killick, Esq. 
Matthew J. 
Minch, Esq. 

W. 
B. 
Duotteld, Esq. 
(Secretary). 
R. 
B. 
Dttnwoody, Esq. 
(Assistant Secretary). 
Witnesses :—31r. 
J. 
Stanley, Mr. 
31. 
Kenny, Mr. 
G. 
P. 
Carroll. 
Mr. 
[John Stanley, [Mr. 
Michael Kenny, called; and Examined. 
25847. 
(Chairman.) 
(To 3£r. 
Stanley.) 
Were you twenty years in the employment of the late Sir Richard Keane as manager of the South of Ireland Waggon and Wheel Company ?—I 
was. 
25848. 
What happened to that subsequently ?—It 
was turned into a limited liability company. 
u®25849. 
In what capacity have you acted for the company ?—I 
acted as secretary and manager during its existence. 
25850. 
What business did Sir Richard Keane and the company do ?—They 
were large importers of coal and iron as well as manufactured railway material and they were large exporters of manufactured timber, pit wood and gross timber. 

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25851. 
Was this trade done for a long period by sailing yessels ?—It 
was nearly all done by sailing vessels. 
25852 (Mr. 
Waldron.) 
Was this at Cappoquin ?—Yes. 
25853 (Chairman.) 
Did they ply down the river Black-water and then to what ports ?—We 
loaded our vessels close by Cappoquin and despatched them to Liverpool, 23 Apr. 
1907. 
Bristol, Cardiff and Newport. 
25854. 
And Swansea ?—Sometimes 
Swansea; Swansea was a port we very seldom went to, 25855. 
Did they get return cargoes ?—We 
generally imported coal and exported timber and corn. 
25856. 
Have you much difficulty in inducing captains to charter for the port ?—At 
the present time we can 

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Mr. 
John Stanley, HI). 
Michael Kenny, Cappoquin. 

River BlackAvater.