Law and practice in respect to the occupation of land in Ireland: minutes of evidence: part II

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946 EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE COMMISSIONERS APPOINTED 9th September, 1844. 
Hy the driver of Mr. 
GaUwey, though I cannot prove it, ancl a system of bribes from the 

tenants. 
Cows, sheep, and money, and every thing, is given to him. 
709-12. 
Do you know why you were deprived of your farm?—For 
no cause whatever. 
It Mr. 
Wm. 
O'Sullivan. 

was jn my own hands. 
It was not sublet. 
I farmed it myself. 
I had cattle on it •' 

and it was a greater object to me than any other person, as it was adjoining my domam. 
It was taken from me by Mr. 
GaUwey; ancl worse than that, he fell out with me without any cause, in order to deprive me of that land. 
My son got a letter of recommendation from Lord Bearhaven and Lord Bantry to get the farm, ancl he promised Mm the farm ; but he availed himself of an opportumty of coming into the country when my son was in Dubhn attending to his profession as a barrister, ancl he gave the land to another. 
My rent was £70, and he let it for £95, though my rent was over the value. 
I had it uncler the imme¬ diate tenant of Lord Kenmare. 
13. 
Did he offer it to you at the increased rent ?—No. 
He deprived me of it without notice. 
He did not even give me the six months' notice. 

14. 
Have you any other statement you wish to lay before the commissioners?—No, 
no more than the great oppression wMch is practised towards the tenants. 

[ The witness withdrew.] 
710. 
Timothy Connor. 

See Mr. 
Gallwey's 

Evidence, 

Timothy Connor, sworn and examined. 
1. 
Where do you Hve ?—About 
five miles from tins town. 
2. 
Did you hold any land uncler Lord Konmaro ?—Yes. 
3. 
When was it ?—My 
father had it thirty-one years, and then my two brothers. 
4. 
How much was it ?—About 
£38 we paid yearly. 
5. 
When did you lose it ? 
—About five years ago. 
6. 
Who was your landlord ?—Mr. 
Mclifont. 
He died ; then it came into the hands of Lord Kenmare ; and the driver, Denis Sullivan, under Mr. 
Gallwey, came to me, and desired me to bmld up two fine houses—ancl Mr. 
GaUwey came about the place. 
I had got a good deal of money at that time ; my brothers were not so wreU off. 
I knocked down the house we had thirty-one years, and I made up another house there, and I laid out £8. 
7. 
Did you see Mr. 
GaUwey himself at aH ?—I 
did. 
8. 
What did he teH you to do ?—He 
told mc to mind myself. 
9. 
Were you to be the tenant ?—Yes. 
10. 
How long did you hold that under Mr. 
Gallwey ?—For 
three years. 
11. 
Did you pay him the rent ?—Yes, 
every part of it, but I got no receipt. 
12. 
Was there any tMng about a cow?—Denis 
Sullivan caUecl me near to a ditch, and he gave me a book, and told me, if I would give my oath not to say any tMng about the £5 I had given to him, I should have aH the land. 
13. 
Whose money was it you gave hhn ?—My 
mother's. 
I had it in my hand, and I was to give it to Mm, and he was to give me all the land. 
He told me to leave the £5 upon the chest for Mm, and he was to go up stairs for it; but the priest told me not to give Mm the money, and I did not give it to Mm at aU, and I did not take my oath at all. 

[ Tlie witness withdrew.] 
71.1.0 
Cornelius Connor. 
See Mr. 
Gallwey's 

Evidence, 

Cornelius Connor, sworn, and examined through an interpreter. 
1. 
Where do you Hve ?—Harlltill, 
in the county of Cork. 
2. 
Do you remember any thing wMch passed between you and Denis Sullivan, about a cow ?—Yes. 
3. 
What was it ?—Sullivan 
sent a man to mc, and asked me for a bribe; and as I could not give a bribe, I offered a cow. 
4. 
When was tMs ?—Four 
years ago. 
5. 
What was the bribe for ?—He 
said he would go to Mr. 
GaUwey and get me the lands if he should get the bribe. 
6. 
Is SulHvan the driver of Mr. 
GaUwey ?—Yes, 
he is. 
7. 
Who was the man that was sent to you ?—A 
first cousin of mine, Dems Neale. 
8. 
Ishe Hvmg now ?—Yes 
; he lives stiU on the estate of Lord Kenmare. 
9. 
Did SulHvan take the cow ?—He 
did not get the cow. 
10. 
How did it happen he did not get the cow?—Father 
Barry promised me that I should have the ground, as the rent was paid up, and there was notMng to caH upon me for; but he did not teH me not to give the cow, for I did not tell the priest any thing about it. 

11. 
When the message was sent to you, was any thmgsaid to you about the amount of the bribe ?—From 
£4 to £4 10s., 
and the cow was worth that much. 
12. 
Did you ever speak to Sullivan upon the subject?—Yes, 
I did. 
13. 
What passed between you and him upon the subject ?—Sullivan 
said he did not luce to have any tMng to do with the cow, for fear it should be found out on Mm; and he sent a friend of his own to buy the cow, under the pretence that the cow was for the friend, and when that friend came, my wife would not let hhn have the cow, 14. 
Did SulHvan ask you for any money?—No. 

m 

15. 
Did you say any tMng about tMs to Mr. 
GaUwey when an mquiry was made som time ago ?—I 
never told him of it. 

, 16. 
Did you see Mx> GaUwey, or were you asked any questions about it ?—He 
asked m