Educational Endowments (Ireland) Commissioners: annual report, 1888-89, minutes of evidence and appendices

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IIS EDUCATIONAL ENDOWMENTS (IRELAND) COMMISSION. 
Oct. 
1888. 
Daniel Dclaclieroi3, D.X. 

3124. 
Rev. 
Dr. 
Molloy. 
—It is now practically an ordinary National school?—It 
is. 

3125. 
Lord Justice FitzGibbon.—How 
is the building kept in order ?—Under 
the will there is no fund for keeping the schoolhouse in order, There was an old schoolhouse, and in 1842 my uncle, Daniel Delacherois, when giving the present schoolhouse in exchange, arranged to pay .£2 
a year towards keeping it in repair. 
I have here an extract from the inden¬ ture which was made on February 10, 1842. 
3126. 
Lord Justice FitzGibbon (reads)—It was made between Daniel Delacheiois of the one part, and the Lord Bishop of Down and Connor and the Rev. 
Edward Cupples, Vicar-General of the diocese, of the other part. 
It recites that it would be for the advantage of the Charily School in Donaghadee to have a change in the house in which the school was held, and thac the change having been made, the trustees are to pay one pepper-corn for ever as a nominal rent to said Daniel Delacherois, and the said Daniel Delacherois to pay for ever to said trustees and their successors, or to any person authorized by them to receive same, on the 1st day of November in every year, the sum of 40s., 
to be applied by the trustees for keeping the demised premises in repair, so far as the said sum will enable them to do so ?—I 
pay that 40s. 
every year ; but £2 would never keep up a building of that kind ; it would require £40 to put a slate roof on it at the present time. 
I have laid out a good deal of money on the schoolhouse from time to time. 
3127. 
Those were all voluntary contributions on your part ?—Yes 
; there is nobody else to do this. 
3128. 
Did the Bishop appoint the present master ? 
—No. 
Erasmus Smith's Board appointed him, but by the approval of the present Primate, and when 

Erasmus Smith's Board gave up the school it w taken up by the National Board on February 1 ikc? 
and he has continued ever since as master 

' ' 3129. 
Besides the 40s. 
a year, what haveyouiui.l 
for the school?—I 
have had to supplement the ^ with about £20 for keeping it in repair, and ab,^ expend £o4 in building out offices for the schoo' There is no provision whatever for fuel, requisite*' &c, and I have been paying every sixpence sineeVe school was given up by Erasmus Smith's Board up to the present time. 
There should be a separate iun«l for that purpose. 
There is no fund now to pay f„r those things. 
3130. 
Dr. 
Traill.—Has 
there been any accumu¬ lation of the £10 a year apprenticeship fund i— No* the Crommelin part of the Bequests was not paid*for some years, and remained over, and then the BiBhon through the Commissioners of Charitable Douanoil and Bequests, arranged that it should be spent in providing the present schoolhouse. 
3131. 
Lord Justice FitzGibbon.—There 
is ln similar fund available now ?—Not 
that I know of 1 wish to mention that the prayers presciibed bv the will have not been read for some time past. 

3132. 
Has the £10 been paid?—Not 
latterlv, fur the prayers were not read. 
3133. 
What has been done with the £10 ?—It 
has not been paid by either Mr. 
Crommelin or me; it h a matter for the lawyers to say whether the pr.t\ers, 
not having been read, the money is to be paid for that purpose. 
3134. 
Can you tell us how long back it has not been paid ? 
—No, I cannot. 
3133. 
Rev. 
Dr. 
Molloy.—Your 
motto is, NoP.uer 
noster, no penny ?—We 
did not get the Pater no^ttr, and accordingly we did not pay the penny. 

James W. 
Charles, Head Master, sworn and examined. 
Jasnes "VT. 
Charles. 

313G. 
Lord Justice FitzGibbon.—When 
were you appointed to take charge of this school ?—On 
Sep¬ tember 1, 1876; I was appointed by Erasmus Smith's Board, subject to the approval of the Bishop of the diocese, and the rector of the parish. 
3137. 
Where were you engaged before that ?—In 
England, in the Academy in Derby, and also in Stafford. 
I was educated in the Ranelagh Institution at Athlone. 
3138. 
When you came here what number of children were in the school?—The 
school was in a very low state, and the children only attended half time; there were about 20. 
3139. 
At that time it was not under either Erasmus Smith's or the National Board?—No; 
it was under neither. 
3140. 
When you came it was put under Erasmus Smith'?—Yes, 
and it so remained until January 31, 1884. 
3141. 
How much did you get from them ?—I 
got from them £32 a year altogether. 
3142. 
How much have you got since you came under the Board 1—I had £35 salary from the Board last year, and the results fees were £16 5s. 
Gd. 
I went in provisionally under the Board, and want to go up and get classed higher; I applied, to get up for Uaining last year and wan not called. 
3143. 
Your classification on joining would be third class 1—Yes. 
3144. 
What number of pupils have you now?—I 
have sixty-two on the roll, and an average attendance of forty-five at present; it is sometimes up to fifty, and 1 have had sixty, but in the summer time the children who are poor run messages for the visitors who are stopping here for the benefit of the sea. 
3145. 
The* children are principally residents in Donasrhadee ?—Yes. 

3146. 
What are their religious denominations 1— Fifty-six belong to the Episcopal Church, four are Presbyterians, and two Methodists. 
The school h also open to Roman Catholics, but none attend; there are thirty-five free pupils, and twenty-seven paying pupils. 
3147. 
Are there any Roman Catholic schools in Donaghadee 1—No. 
3148. 
Have you any monitor?—No, 
my average is more than enough ; I applied in June, but the National Board are not appointing monitors of late. 

3149. 
Have you children at your school of all classes ?—Yes, 
from the first to the sixth class; there is only a very small sixth class. 

3150. 
How do you account for that ?—The 
people are poor, and as soon as the children grow up they are sent off to work. 
3151. 
Are there any more advanced schools hi Donaghadee than yours?—No. 
3152. 
What fees are paid?—I 
have thirty free scholars nominated by the rector; the remainder pay from a penny up to fivepence a week ; I have some paying fivepence. 
3153. 
Have you any free scholars besides those nominated by the vicar?—Some 
whose parents are so poor that I take them on free myself. 
3154. 
Are those who are nominated by the viar Church children?—Yes, 
he gives a preference fe Church children. 
3155. 
£30 is the amount annually allowed for clothes?—Yes, 
£30 Irish, which is £27 13s. 
%d. 

3156. 
Dr. 
Traill.—Who 
supplies the clothes?-A 
tailor, subject to the approval of the rector. 
3157. 
Are they got through you?—I 
look afe* them. 
3158. 
Are the children who get that clothing all poor children?—Yes, 
very poor.-, 

3159. 
Lord Justice FitzGibbon.—Do 
yon find