Tithes in Ireland: first report

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ON TITHES IN IRELAND. 

37 ' 418. 
Do you know whether the character of that process-server was particularly je*«»A Gra?n 
Esq. 
obnoxious to the people?—I 
understood so; but as to that matter, I think every 

' process-server is equally obnoxious to the people. 
24 January 183a. 
419. 
Do you mean that all process-servers are obnoxious, or only process-servers for tithes ?—I 
mean all tithe process-servers. 
420. 
On that occasion, you say the process-server was the first that was knocked down ?—They 
rushed at the process-server in the first instance, and demanded him to be given up ; that was refused ; but I understood the chief constable said thev would serve no more processes that day, if the people would disperse. 
421. 
Was not a man shot by the chief constable before he himself was assailed? 
—I understood so ; it did not come out in evidence upon the inquest. 
422. 
You say that the chapel bells of Knocktopher were rung for the purpose of assembling the people ; was that with the knowledge of the Catholic clergy ?—No, 
I am confident it was not. 
423. 
Do you believe that upon many occasions the Catholic clergy have assisted the police in preventing riotous assemblies ?—I 
have heard so ; but cannot speak of my own knowledge. 
424. 
Do you believe that the objection of the people is to the present mode of collecting tithes ?—The 
objection is principally to the present mode of collecting tithes : but there is an objection to tithes altogether. 
425. 
Do you think that the present state ot that district you are acquainted with has arisen from what the people consider the obnoxious mode of collecting tithes ?—* 
I think it is to tithes altogether, as well as to the obnoxious mode of collecting them. 
426. 
Is there not in fact an opinion amongst the people, that there is great par* tiality in the persons that view and value tithes?—I 
have heard so. 

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427. 
Is it not, in fact, the interest of the persons who value the tithes to value them high ?—That 
depends very much upon how the person is paid, whether by poundage, or by a salary. 

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428. 
Do you know of any offer having been made to the clergy in those parishes which you have alluded to, which have been rejected by them ?—Yes; 
Dr. 
But* ler was offered, in the parish of Woollen Grange, J 35. 
4^/. 
in the pound for what he demanded, and he rejected it. 
A similar offer was made to Archdeacon Irving by the parishioners of Kilfane, which he accepted. 
429. 
Did that apply to arrears?—In 
Dr. 
Butler's case I understood it did not to the full extent of the arrears, but to one year. 
430. 
Had he any security offered him for the payment of that?—Yes; 
Major Bryan, the landlord of thfi estate, told me he would advance the money for his tenants. 
431. 
In the case of Archdeacon Irving, when he agreed to receive this composi-tion, has it been paid him ?—The 
parishioners agreed to the offer of Archdeacon Irving, and they paid him within a few days 50/. 
I think the parish does not amount to more than 300/. 
or 400/. 
a year; but 1 understand they have not paid him any thing since ; in fact, I believe they are willing, but are afraid. 
432. 
When was the agreement made?—About 
six weeks or two months ago. 
433. 
Was the amount that they paid him the full amount that was due ?—Yes, 
deducting the allowance that he agreed to make. 
•434. 
Then, in fact, is there any thing more due ?—Yes; 
they were all to have paid him a few days afterwards, and they did pay him 50 /., 
but they have made no further payment that I know of. 
In Dr. 
Hamilton's parish of Auchervilla, he had a meeting of the parishioners; the valuation of the parish was 315/.} 
he agreed to deduct the 15 /., 
and to allow 10 per cent., 
provided the landlords would undertake to pay the balance that was due, which the parishioners declined, offering him 50 /. 

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* 435. 
That is one of the parishes of his union, is not it?—It 
is. 
436. 
In Dr. 
Hamilton's union of Knocktopher, do you know how many parishes there are ?—No; 
some of those named are not known. 
437. 
Some of those parishes are under the Composition Act, and some are not under the Composition Act ?—So 
I understand. 
438. 
Do you know whether there is any difference in the .payment 
of tithes to him in those that are under the Composition Act and those that are not ?—No, 
I do not. 
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' 439. 
What has been the feeling of the people generally, to your knowledge, towards the police ? 
-Except in respect to tithes, I think, perfectly quiet 177. 
E3 440.