Tithes in Ireland: first report

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13 punctual payment of the tithes, and collect it themselves, he would take off 10 per Colonel -cent. 
They replied, that they did not consider this any reduction, as they knew SirJofolTamry the Doctor paid his agent 12 per cent, for collecting it, consequently he would gain by such an agreement. 
It was observed, that as they now objected to pay tithe, *^ January 1832. 
they would soon refuse to pay rent. 
To this they answered, No; that they received value for the rent they paid; but they did not consider they had any "value for tithe. 
The deputation soon afterwards went away, without coming to any arrangement." 
Is it within your knowledge that he refused to give the 12 per cent.,, 
upon their offering to pay that?—I 
do not think any such proposal was made. 
You stated, that this business at Knocktopher has created some iealousv in the police, and particularly between the Catholic and the Protestant members of it; can you state any ground why that should have occurred ?—The 
ground is simply .this, 
that at the unfortunate affair at Huggins Town several Catholic policemen escaped untouched and uninjured by the inhabitants, and a very few of the •Protestants. 
Is there any ground for believing that that was more than accidental ?—That 
it was not accidental is the impression upon the mind of the police, (for it is of //««> impression I speak) ; but I couid not find any imputation of misconduct to fix upon any individual, Protestant or Catholic, nor was any Protestant member of the police desirous of bringing forward such a charge; but the impression upon the mind of the police was, that the Catholics must have been favoured. 
When you state that a distrust has arisen between the Protestant and Catholic policemen, you do not mean to say that the Protestant policemen suspect that the Catholic policemen will not do their duty, but that when they come to an affray they will be favoured?—Exactly 

Was there any attempt during the conflict, on the part of the populace, to discriminate between Protestant and Catholic?—It 
is impossible to say, it was so sudden a thing, and, I believe, so unpremeditated. 
I have never considered that it was a premeditated attack; but I felt confident, with the officer who was sacri-ficed upon duty, that it was an unpremeditated attack. 
Can you state what was the relative proportions of Catholic and Protestant policemen upon that occasion?—I 
think there were 14 Catholics and 24 Pro-testants. 
Can you state how many of each were killed or wounded ?—I 
think that nine Protestants were killed, (exclusive of the officer), and only two Catholics; but of the 24 Protestants, it is certain that 20 were killed or wounded, and of the Catholics I think about seven. 
Had the people the power of knowing the individuals so as to be enabled to select the Catholics from the Protestants, and to attack the Protestant in preference to the Catholic?—I 
believe the police party were perfectly well known to the inhabitants of that part of the country. 
Where did they come from?—They 
were serving in that particular district of the county. 
Have you reason to believe that they were the police of that barony ?—They 
were the police collected between Pill Town and Knocktopher. 
Can you describe the situation in which they were first attacked by the people?—The 
situation was one in which the officer ought never to have placed them ; it was a very deep hollow road between loose stone walls, with heavy stones upon the top, so that it furnished arms to those persons who were disposed to use "them. 

In throwing those heavy stones upon the police, could they, from the situa-tion in which they threw the stones upon them, have distinguished Catholics from Protestants ?—I 
should say they could ; I do not say that they did, but I should say that they could ; that the party present who were most forward in the attack did know individually a great number of the police. 
An impression exists strongly on the minds of the police, that in getting away from the field, they (the Catholics) were not pursued, and that consequently a great number of the Catholics escaped unhurt. 
In assisting to support the rights of the clergy, what are the limitations imposed by the law, or by your orders, upon the services of the police?—In 
jDrotecting the lives of the persons employed. 



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