Select Committee on Limits of Boroughs of Dungarvan, Youghall, and Mallow: report and minutes of evidence

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IS 127. 
Is there any rate for lighting and watching the town of Dungarvan ? 
Jo/m Hackon. 
Are there boundaries, which are well known and recognized, that sepa-19 J«ty 183*-rate the town from the manor of Dungarvan ?—Yes, 
as the question relates to the county rates affecting the town, there are. 
Do those boundaries include Abbey-side or not?—The 
town of Dun-garvan is rated in proportion to the extent of seven plough lands and a half; and Abbey-side does not compose a portion of what is considered to be those seven plough lands and a half. 

Then Abbey-side, for the purpose of this assessment, is not considered as a part of the town of Dungarvan ?—No. 
If there was any distinction with regard to the elective franchise between the householders of the town and the freeholders of the manor, the householders of Abbey-side would not be entitled to vote?—I 
do not conceive there is any distinction. 

Supposing there was a distinction between the town and the manor, the householders of Abbey-side would not be entitled to vote ?—According 
to the view of the case as I have given it in my previous answer, Dungarvan is rated in itself, subject to the payment of a proportion of county charge equal to an extent of seven plough lands and a half. 
Abbey-side is a distinct thing; there-fore, if the distinction was to be formed upon the principle of the county charge affecting the tovva of Dungarvan in itself, on that principle, if such was to be the case, then in that case Abbey-side would be excluded. 
Is there any distinction between the jurisdiction which is exercised over the town and that which is exercised over the manor?—No. 
Are you the seneschal of the manor?—I 
As seneschal of the manor do you exercise jurisdiction over the town, and are there any persons who exercise jurisdiction over the town who have no jurisdiction over the manor ?—There 
are not. 

Then in point of fact, except as to parochial assessment, you know of no distinction drawn between the one part of the manor and the other?— 
I do not. 
Are you aware the right of voting for the manor of Dungarvan has been the stihjprt of discussion in the Iiiali PailiaiucuL ?—I 
cmnut ao| lam aware of it. 

You are not aware of any decision having been come to on that subject? 
—I am not. 
And if a voter was to present himself before you as a 5 /. 
householder, in the exercise of your authority you would feel yourself bound to admit him, even if he were not a freeholder ?—Certainly. 
In any part of the manor ?—No 
matter from what part of the manor he came. 
Can you at all account why there are not these 5/. 
householders regis-tered for this part of the manor of Dungarvan?—I 
think I can. 
Have you ever registered any person who was a 5/. 
householder, who resided out of the town ?—I 
am not the officer whose duty it is to make such registers. 
Have you admitted any person to vote as a householder, residing in Abbey-side, and not in the town of Dungarvan?—I 
am not prepared to say that I have or have not, because it was not for me to know where they resided excepting an objection was made. 
Take this map, and tell the Committee, according to the best of your knowledge, whether these, are the boundaries of the manor of DungarvanJ— I have it not in my power to describe the boundaries of the manor of Dungar-van, I know nothing of the boundaries of the manor of Dungarvan but from repute ; a difference of opinion has existed with respect to the boundaries of tbe manor of Ikingarvan, which I am not competent to decide upon. 
Is there any part of the lands there described as being part of the 

^ manor of Dungarvan that you would hesitate in issuing a writ against any person under fhe decree of your court ?—There 
is not. 
You are not a magistrate of the county?—I 
am not.